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Post Re: Do the flaws of the new Alfa 4C leave you thinking...
Chris Harris on 4c vs Cayman

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Post Re: Do the flaws of the new Alfa 4C leave you thinking...
So in conclusion;

If you want the best car you buy a Porsche.

If you don't want to live in a world or grey and flannel you buy a 4C and stop being such a big girl

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Post Re: Do the flaws of the new Alfa 4C leave you thinking...
SteveH wrote:
This is the mock-up from Car magazine.

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Looks like they've used Giulietta styling cues on the concept sketches for the new MX5.


I find this quite nicer, but a little 'identikit' in the execution - is this just what Car magazine guess it will look like? I also see a fair percentage of what looks rather like that rather curvy but extremely un-loved Lexus coupe of some years back - the evil cyborg woman car-jacked one in Terminator3, you may recall. ;-)

Oh, and IF I actually had the ca$h, I still wouldn't buy a 4C. If I was being forced to spend some £48,000 in buying a new car, it would be the Toyota GT-86, and I'd buy a Mk2 MR2 Turbo, keep a £5k budget aside for mods & maintenance, and hammer that on track-days. And STILL have around £8k spare.


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Oh, and IF I actually had the ca$h, I still wouldn't buy a 4C. If I was being forced to spend some £48,000 in buying a new car, it would be the Toyota GT-86, and I'd buy a Mk2 MR2 Turbo, keep a £5k budget aside for mods & maintenance, and hammer that on track-days. And STILL have around £8k spare.


Well, that's great. If you find the MR2 or GT86 more appealing visually then we cannot help you :). Fact that 4c is more capable than both is rather beyond doubt.

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Tee-Ess-Guy wrote:
Oh, and IF I actually had the ca$h, I still wouldn't buy a 4C. If I was being forced to spend some £48,000 in buying a new car, it would be the Toyota GT-86, and I'd buy a Mk2 MR2 Turbo, keep a £5k budget aside for mods & maintenance, and hammer that on track-days. And STILL have around £8k spare.


Well, that's great. If you find the MR2 or GT86 more appealing visually then we cannot help you :). Fact that 4c is more capable than both is rather beyond doubt.


Hahaha. well, each to their own. I think I've spelt out my logic quite clearly. Yes, the 4C is pretty, but has huge holes in it's spec-sheet from where I'm sitting. I find the GT-86 very desirable, as I do the MR2.


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Post Re: Do the flaws of the new Alfa 4C leave you thinking...
Holes in the 4C's spec sheet (I assume power and so on)

I'd rather have a GT86

Is this not the very argument leveled at the GT86?

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The 4C will sell out due to the limited numbers available.

But it's still an awful lot of cash for a Lotus Elise-alike with a 4 pot turbo engine, when the competition are offering more usable options with multi-cylinder engines for less money. Or the same money for lots more kit and more power.

One of the criticisms often levelled at Alfa is the lack of multi-cylinder engines in the range - no V6 in the road cars anymore, for example - yet everyone is getting excited about a 4 pot turbo.

I suspect our 156 will be our last 'modern' Alfa for a while now - there's very little in the range which inspires anymore - and I'm now looking at a Boxster to replace the MX5, as the GTV6 Spider was never a fantastic drive when new - and mostly they appear to be falling apart rapidly these days.


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With BMW going FWD I think lack of cylinders is the last thing Alfa are bothered about, that and EVEYBODY is downsizing their engines

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But your 'flagship' sportscar, with the same 4-pot turbo you get in a family hatch just feels very wrong.

BMW are going FWD for the 1-series, which is a real shame, as it means I'll need to go a size up when I renew my company car - but I couldn't see them selling a £50k Z4 with a 4-pot engine! Stranger things have happened, though...

I guess my 75 is a lifelong keeper, the way things are going!


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The engine in an Z4 won't be massively different than that from a 3 series, the i8 (the first super car BMW have built this millenia) has a 3 cyclinder engine for fucks sake!

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